A question of privacy

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nylimited
Joined: February 17th, 2013, 7:17 am

July 23rd, 2013, 10:22 pm

In the age of PRISM and various agencies spying on the Internet I need to ask..

Why does Tapatalk go to "link.tapatalk.com" when I click a url in a post before I am redirected to my destination?

More importantly how do i stop this intrusion? It is none of Tapatalk's business what links I visit!


[ EDIT ] I suppose expecting an answer was silly. It may be more interesting to forward this info to the various antivirus companies and see if they consider it an unwanted intrusion of privacy...


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Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? Who knows? Who cares?

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nylimited
Joined: February 17th, 2013, 7:17 am

July 26th, 2013, 8:54 pm

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For all those who wonder if Tapatalk could really be doing this here it is! Yes, they are! Recently, Tom placed a url in his post here which is what I used for testing. It is only a few posts back from this one. While viewing the post inTapatalk I tapped/clicked the URL and Tapatalk launched my browser with the following target address:

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http://link.tapatalk.com/api/click?key=a7e5ffb24b9e84f4f4f6bbd88aa4e5b8&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.economist.com%2Fblogs%2Feconomist-explains%2F2013%2F07%2Feconomist-explains-13&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fandroidforum.tytung.com&subid=c55b872eb5d90e27a6b3a6760753f452

You should note that:
  1. Tapatalk directs the browser to link.tapatalk.com instead of the intended URL
  2. The string contains a portion identified by "out=" which is the actual URL I should have been going to
  3. The string also contains a portion identified by "loc=" which identifies the location or source of the click.
  4. The portions marked as "key=" and "subid=" have unknown uses (to me) and they could be used for any number of tracking possibilities
Regardless of Quoord's (Tapatalk's) possible explanation (which has never been offered) my clicked destinations are not their business and sending all that information to their own server does invade my privacy.

Short of someone writing some code to intercept and strip the target URL before it gets to the browser (any devs interested in writing this?) the only recourse one has is not to click but to copy the URL and manually paste it into a browser.

Personally, I find this practice VERY DISTASTEFUL especially by a product which requires purchase!

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MordyT
Joined: November 11th, 2009, 2:57 am

July 26th, 2013, 10:15 pm

They do it for viglink integration and other ads/stats for forum owners.

Typed on the Nexus

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nylimited
Joined: February 17th, 2013, 7:17 am

July 26th, 2013, 11:56 pm

MordyT wrote: They do it for viglink integration and other ads/stats for forum owners.

Typed on the Nexus
A supposition? They never mentioned the fact that their app "phones home" on Google but they posted a price.

There is no acceptable reason to take data off my screen, without my permission, and do anything with it. Quoord's arrogance is superb.


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Magissia
Joined: July 7th, 2013, 1:02 am

July 28th, 2013, 3:56 pm

this kind of links you are yelling at is what allow people to make link that will be opened by tapatalk instaed of web browser in android, and i prefer to have tapatalk opened, really.

Regards

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nylimited
Joined: February 17th, 2013, 7:17 am

July 29th, 2013, 4:10 pm

Magissia wrote: this kind of links you are yelling at is what allow people to make link that will be opened by tapatalk instaed of web browser in android, and i prefer to have tapatalk opened, really.

Regards
Since the links I am speaking of open in the Chrome browser I have to admit I have no idea what you are talking about.

And, if they did open in Tapatalk (which they do not) they should still not be sent to anyone else, be that the NSA or KGB or Tapatalk.
Pretty simple.


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MordyT
Joined: November 11th, 2009, 2:57 am

July 29th, 2013, 4:26 pm

nylimited wrote: A supposition? They never mentioned the fact that their app "phones home" on Google but they posted a price.

There is no acceptable reason to take data off my screen, without my permission, and do anything with it. Quoord's arrogance is superb.


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Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? Who knows? Who cares?
What do you mean by: "A supposition"
If you don't like how Tapatalk changes links in their app, don't use it?
Magissia wrote: this kind of links you are yelling at is what allow people to make link that will be opened by tapatalk instaed of web browser in android, and i prefer to have tapatalk opened, really.

Regards
While some links TT mods to have the forum open in TT instead of the browser, these links are not formated HTTPS://link.Tapatalk.com

Instead, formated Tapatalk://URL



Typed on the Nexus

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Magissia
Joined: July 7th, 2013, 1:02 am

July 29th, 2013, 10:53 pm

MordyT wrote: What do you mean by: "A supposition"
If you don't like how Tapatalk changes links in their app, don't use it?

While some links TT mods to have the forum open in TT instead of the browser, these links are not formated HTTPS://link.Tapatalk.com

Instead, formated Tapatalk://URL



Typed on the Nexus
Thanks for the precision

Then i turn to op's camp.

Regards

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nylimited
Joined: February 17th, 2013, 7:17 am

July 31st, 2013, 6:59 pm

MordyT wrote: What do you mean by: "A supposition"
If you don't like how Tapatalk changes links in their app, don't use it?
That 'solution' ignores the issue at hand.

Now, had I been informed that this app records information form my device without my consent *before* I purchased it your suggestion would be a good one and most likely I would have followed your advice.

Unfortunately, Quoord elected to hide this information from the public and sell the product, a practice which is generally considered dishonest in most parts of the world. Since I already paid for it and since I doubt a refund would be available my choices are limited to making the information available to others who also do not wish to have their privacy invaded.



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piopio
Joined: October 10th, 2012, 10:32 pm

January 4th, 2014, 2:41 pm

@[USER=1]winter[/USER] in tapatalk 4.1.0 you forget to spy on my clicks.
There is no link2.tapatalk.com
Can you please add this awesome future that breaks the functionality of intents...

thanks